tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5248447883714712696.post5679269843850429762..comments2024-03-25T15:02:25.695+11:00Comments on oz.Typewriter: Evolution of World Speed Typing Records - From the Remington 2 to the IBM ElectricRobert Messengerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04366507489948676594noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5248447883714712696.post-70658148418444692832018-04-05T15:10:08.879+10:002018-04-05T15:10:08.879+10:00Is the world record now held on an electric? If so...Is the world record now held on an electric? If so does it take into account carriage return time? And does it include electronic touch (keyboard) typing?BruceMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14429415134445570648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5248447883714712696.post-87406646849540298612014-04-29T11:40:59.459+10:002014-04-29T11:40:59.459+10:00Hi Al. Great to hear from you. I hope you have rea...Hi Al. Great to hear from you. I hope you have read the comments to this post, in which many of these points were made. You will find many other posts on this blog which mention your father. There was even some slow-motion silent footage of him typing in a movie I posted a few weeks ago.Robert Messengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04366507489948676594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5248447883714712696.post-2071036657505143952014-04-29T10:08:02.825+10:002014-04-29T10:08:02.825+10:00I'm Al Tangora son of the typist. His 142 in 1...I'm Al Tangora son of the typist. His 142 in 1941 was the fastest on a manual under the one hour conditions and rules. He switched from Underwood to Royal in the late '30s. Electrics were introduced in that '41 contest and the War and the introduction of the electric ended those contests.Al Tangoranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5248447883714712696.post-70233961097975086052014-03-28T02:14:13.597+11:002014-03-28T02:14:13.597+11:00Referring to the photo taken at the 1961 Paris com...Referring to the photo taken at the 1961 Paris competition, that looks like very awkward ergonomics, with her elbows so low relative to the keyboard of the Underwood. Great typewriter pad, though. I have one like that, came as case "swag" with one of my typers. Must be horsehair, and its thickness absorbs and supports the irregularities of disintegrating feet, even steadying my couple of three-legged cripples.TonysVisionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16035849049327300498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5248447883714712696.post-75121903141112487262014-03-28T01:50:24.507+11:002014-03-28T01:50:24.507+11:00Very interesting stuff.
I never heard of Stella P...Very interesting stuff.<br /><br />I never heard of Stella Pajunas before. 216 wpm?? It's superhuman.Richard Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16232053429935587826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5248447883714712696.post-85491942555862014842014-03-27T20:38:01.315+11:002014-03-27T20:38:01.315+11:00Bill, I'm referring to averaging 142 over an h...Bill, I'm referring to averaging 142 over an hour under championship conditions (deductions for mistakes). Tangora's 141 was set in winning the 1937 title. In 1959 someone did 176 over five minutes, which I don't think compares - or counts! In 1923 Tangora typed 159 in one minute (that may be where you got the 152 figure for Hossfield, in a post-title "sprint", which traditional for the winner). For me it's a toss-up between Tangora and Hossfield as to who was the greatest, but I lean toward Tangora. I was surprised to find today he was still competing at that level in 1941, and hitting 142, at the age of 38.Robert Messengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04366507489948676594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5248447883714712696.post-82797348888462338132014-03-27T20:20:26.891+11:002014-03-27T20:20:26.891+11:00Bill, your point about Underwood is right, but it ...Bill, your point about Underwood is right, but it was IBM which actually killed off the championship for all time by using electrics from 1941-1946.Robert Messengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04366507489948676594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5248447883714712696.post-58219217593407414422014-03-27T20:18:55.641+11:002014-03-27T20:18:55.641+11:00Bill, I'm certain Hossfield didn't top 150...Bill, I'm certain Hossfield didn't top 150 under competition conditions. Tangora reached 147 in 1923, before the rules changed. Both he and Hossfield dropped to the low 130s after that. When Hamma beat Tangora in Chicago in 1941, it was stated in reports at the time that his 142 (2nd place, seven behind Hamma with an electric) was one up on his previous world record of 141. I would have to think Tangora's 142 in second place was possibly one of the highest, if not the highest, on a manual under the revised conditions.Robert Messengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04366507489948676594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5248447883714712696.post-78542140796647417292014-03-27T19:54:16.296+11:002014-03-27T19:54:16.296+11:00Sorry for my mistakes. I meant 'not much ment...Sorry for my mistakes. I meant 'not much mentioned about speeds over 140 something. (and mis-spelling The)Bill Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14649212489891769390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5248447883714712696.post-3725666480369818652014-03-27T19:52:04.744+11:002014-03-27T19:52:04.744+11:00Amazing comments.
Those are some great speeds, bu...Amazing comments.<br /><br />Those are some great speeds, but if I remember from the contests with manual typewriters those on manual Underwoods quite often won at or near the same speeds of 140 something words per minute. (1917 Haossfield did 152 wpm on an Underwood (first page I found with a reference, but it is a Kindle book so I do not know what the page really is))<br /><br />One reason noted for the demise of championship typing contests was that Underwood would always win. Many of the contestants on other brands would switch to Underwood. Eventually the public lost interest in the contests. (Te Evolution of the Typewriter)<br /><br />Seems the IBMs were not all that much faster than a good Underwood manual if what is in the Evolution of the Typewriter is correct. <br /><br />There was no mention of speeds over 140 something though. 216 w.p.m. maintained would be something.<br /><br />80 w.p.m. with a broken hand is a real accomplishment!<br /><br />I know my Underwood office machine is much faster than anything I have Royal included. I'd like to get an SG1 or SG3 for comparison.Bill Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14649212489891769390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5248447883714712696.post-69851859609909155522014-03-27T18:29:38.279+11:002014-03-27T18:29:38.279+11:00BTW Steve: Stella died in Centerville, Ohio, in Fe...BTW Steve: Stella died in Centerville, Ohio, in February 2007, aged 86.Robert Messengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04366507489948676594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5248447883714712696.post-15707627479256618462014-03-27T17:12:11.108+11:002014-03-27T17:12:11.108+11:00Under championship conditions, it's an hour, w...Under championship conditions, it's an hour, with deductions for mistakes, which she did make - she thought she'd blown it. She averaged 1080 key strokes a minute.<br />At 64, in 1985, she had MS (diagnosed 1966) but could still type at 140 words a minute. Even with a broken right wrist, at that age, she could type at 80 words a minute.<br />See http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2199&dat=19850219&id=tK4xAAAAIBAJ&sjid=FuUFAAAAIBAJ&pg=5598,3278322Robert Messengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04366507489948676594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5248447883714712696.post-33627276428450534542014-03-27T17:01:51.236+11:002014-03-27T17:01:51.236+11:00Do you know if that 216 words per minute was an av...Do you know if that 216 words per minute was an average over a whole hour like the 149 wpm record was? If so, that's over 3 words per second for 3600 seconds. That is absolutely bonkers. I hope she successfully evaded carpel tunnel.Steve Snowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08096720918399327814noreply@blogger.com